G-0LXZDGBNQ6 Who is the Healer? With Ronen Divon - The Holistic Counseling Podcast

Episode 8

Published on:

28th Apr 2021

Who is the Healer? With Ronen Divon

What stops you from achieving healing? Why do some people hold onto their trauma? Is the spiritual and path of awareness more difficult?

Ronen Divon speaks about finding out who the healer is


Ronen Divon had been walking spiritual and holistic paths for well over three decades. Born in Israel, educated in New York, and currently residing in Cary, North Carolina, Ronen had traveled the world, spending time with teachers, masters, healers, and guides. With wisdom that spans multiple traditions, including the Far-East, India, Israel, Brazil, Peru, and Indigenous America, Ronen remains a student, learning and adding modalities that will best serve his clients; each according to their own unique needs. Ronen is a Reiki Master, a channeling healer working in mediumship, and a Yoga and Tai Chi instructor.

He is also an ordained minister with the Sanctuary of the Beloved, a non-denominational church in the Order of Melcheizedek. In his Plant Medicine work, he is a Medicine Carrier affiliated with the CA-based Church of the Celestial Heart. Other than his work as a healer, Ronen is also a published author, a Yoga, Meditation, and Tai Chi instructor

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  • What stops you from giving true healing to someone?
  • What can slow you down from achieving your own healing?


Something to be wary of when it comes to that is the notion of “I’m here to heal the world” and really the first thing that anybody on this path needs to realize is that you have to start with work on yourself. Don’t do for anybody else what you are not ready to do for yourself. (Ronen Divon)

If you have the urge to save and heal others always, have you evaluated that urge? For many people, even though they have benevolent intentions, the want to heal others does come from an egotistical place.

I really want to encourage people [working in therapy] to ask these questions, always ask permission before [giving advice]. (Ronen Divon)

Making sure that you receive consent, and that the person knows you are trying to help them, allows them to understand that you are doing the work to help them and that they are taking an active role in doing the work as well.


We are the biggest [saboteurs] of our own healing … I find that every single situation that we face we create, and it’s not resolved until we’re ready to let it go. (Ronen Divon)

We can only grow and expand into better, wiser, and stronger people through experiencing suffering. When everything is smooth, calm, and stable we can enjoy it but we remain stagnant in our progression.

Therefore, there is friction between our comfortable, ego-centered selves that seek comfort and predictability and the people who we want to become, the lessons we need to learn, and ultimately the healing that we need.

Our healing lies beyond the limit of our comfort zone. In this way, you remaining in your comfort zone is what slows you down and stops you from achieving healing.

If we can really understand that, then the issue is going to get resolved. If we do not, then it’s going to continue. (Ronen Divon)

You have to release the “dirt” that gathers at the bottom of your mind and heart so that you can “clean” what you have within you.

"There is a modern misperception that when one walks a Spiritual path, life is smooth, good, easy, and joyful; it may be more accurate to say that today’s Spiritual path is changeable, dynamic, rugged, challenging, and sometimes chaotic. It is your choice whether to walk this path with grace, love, joy, and power." *SOURCE UNKNOWN

Words from Kai Karrel’s Medium’s Creed

“May my words and actions reflect my inner beauty and the personal journey of my own healing.”

I ask that if I make mistakes or if I am unaware of acting in disharmony, please God, inspire others to instruct me and bring this to my attention. I ask that you give me the humility to accept correction and criticism so I can keep on shining within this light.”

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The Holistic Counseling Podcast
Answering the call to build your holistic practice
The Holistic Counseling Podcast hosted by Chris McDonald, a Licensed Professional Counselor, inspires mental health therapists to explore treatment options outside the realm of traditional therapy. Yes, Chris knows all about the stigmas attached to holistic therapy, yet she also knows how the client benefits far outweigh the looks, what-ifs, and worries about what people will think of you as a Mental Health Professional.

With a 200-hour Yoga Teacher and Group Practice Owner to her name, Chris specializes in treating anxiety, depression, trauma, and grief in young adults. She has seen firsthand how beneficial mindfulness, relaxation skills, meditation, and yoga have been in supplementing traditional therapy - especially in today’s world.

If you’re a Mental Health Therapist looking for the most up-to-date holistic treatments and wanting to learn how to integrate them into treatments, The Holistic Counseling Podcast is just for you! Chris helps you take your practice to the next level with a thriving holistic counseling service that you can give with confidence. Are you ready?

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Chris McDonald

Chris McDonald is a Licensed Professional Counselor and holistic provider with a group practice, “Path to Hope Counseling” in North Raleigh. She is a 200 hour Registered Yoga Teacher and offers gentle yoga classes, workshops and private yoga sessions. She specializes in treatment of anxiety, depression, trauma and grief in young adults in transition. She teaches clients relaxation skills, mindfulness, meditation and uses Brainspotting in treatment of trauma. Chris also offers Therapy for Therapists and wrote the book “Holistic Self-Care for Counselors.” She is passionate about helping other Mental Health Therapists and created “The Holistic Counseling Podcast.” Her favorite holistic daily rourtines include yoga and meditation.